Morgan, who was rather civil and polite during the interview – perhaps he was still reeling from his encounter with conservative radio talk show host and WWE personality Alex Jones (Jones is not really a WWE personality, but he sure sounds like one) – asked the Cpl. Joshua Boston several poignant questions, among them, one concerning the escalation of gun ownership in the U.S. and whether that would lead to more violence.
PIERS MORGAN, HOST: If everybody exercises that choice and is legally allowed to do so, you could end up with every movie theater and every school and every church and every shopping mall in America with everybody armed with an AR-15 assault rifle and magazines that could kill 100 people in a minute. Where does that lead America to other than utter Wild West hell?
JOSHUA BOSTON, FORMER MARINE: All right, they said this was going to happen whenever Texas instituted its concealed handgun laws, and it hasn’t happened. In the Clackamas mall shooting there was a 22-year-old carrying a concealed weapon, and he presented his weapon at the threat, and he held his fire just like happened at Congresswoman Giffords’ shooting. There was a CHL holder there, and he held his fire.
The American people aren’t as gun-happy and trigger-happy as they’re being painted out to be by the media. They are smarter than that. They know when to hold their fire. They know when to fire. And we can increase the chances of success for these people that get caught in these situations for their survival by education. We’ve got to stop making this a taboo subject to everyone because it’s scary. We can’t give up our rights because we’re afraid.
Wow, it’s a brilliant response, isn’t it?
Cpl. Boston is absolutely right, and to his point about concealed carry not turning society into the Wild West, we know that this is totally true. Not only in Texas, but in every state around the country.
A few days ago, Guns.com reported that in Florida, the ‘Gunshine’ state, which has more than 1 million active concealed carry permit holders (more than any other state in the nation), between 2007 and 2011, the firearm-related violent crime rate fell 33 percent while the number of issued CCW permits rose nearly 90 percent.
In other words, that Wild West comparison is utter claptrap.
Also, on a side note, statistically speaking, just because law-abiding folks can carry concealed doesn’t mean that they all exercises that right. In ‘shall issue’ states, for example, only about 3-5 percent of the population carry concealed firearms for self-defense (in Florida, which has the most, it’s 7 percent).
Morgan then turned to his next favorite subject, the need to outright ban AR-15s.
MORGAN: Well, I would say the only thing I would say to that is I believe the rights of a six or seven-year-old child to go to school without the fear of being murdered, to me, exceed and come higher than any rights to own an AR-15 assault rifle. That’s my point.
BOSTON: Well, Piers, I don’t disagree with you. I don’t think children should have to be going to school worry about being murdered. But we have to accept reality. No matter what laws we pass, Lord knows we have laws, and during the last assault weapons ban, it didn’t stop Columbine from happening. It didn’t stop the West Hollywood shoot-out from happening. These things happen. There are criminals in our world that we have to contend with. And disarming people and taking the AR-15s out of their homes isn’t going to help.
There was a lady in Georgia who shot a man six times. He lied down, cried, got up and left. Now, imagine if there were multiple attackers. She only had six bullets in her pistol. If there were more than one attacker, she could not be alive today.
Obviously Morgan’s question was poorly worded. The right of law-abiding citizens to own sporting rifles does not pose an existential threat to the safety of children. FBI crime statistics illustrate that rifles (all rifles, not just the AR-15) are used in less than 4 percent of homicides.
The reality, as Cpl. Boston expressed, is that bad people will continue to do bad things by any means available. The gunman at Virginia Tech, which is still the deadliest school shooting in American history, did not use an AR-15 – he used two commonly owned handguns: a 9mm Glock and a .22 caliber Walter P22.
In the end, those who believe we can stop the murderous resolve of deranged individuals via gun bans or regulations should consider what Anders Behring Breivik, the Norwegian mass murderer who gunned down 69 people at a youth summer camp in 2011, wrote in his 1,500 page manifesto on the subject of gun control:
IF they take away our AN-fertilizer, we will use AN from Ice packs! If they take away our ice packs; we will hi-jack propane trucks and use them as secondary explosive charges! If they take away our propane trucks; we will fight them with conventional weapons! If they ban the sale of weapons; we will smuggle in AK-47s from the Balkans and the Middle East!
They cannot prevent us, the European conservatives from eventually seizing political and military power. We will succeed even if we have to create our very own improvised guns.
Laws won’t stop killers from killing – but a bullet to the head will.